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You're not going to get any riggie credit with that kind of outlandish thinking.
Spend a blackjack promotions of time around the game and you see everything.
Each time people feel it is some breaking news kind of thing.
It's no offense to anyone, but most online players are 35 and under.
Some of us have been playing for 25+ years and 15 years or more online.
The stories haven't changed.
I love love love the guy who compared Global Poker to NFL Blitz.
What in the hell is a soyboy?
Does it have something to do with the US-China TRADE WAR on soy?
Monteroy is on point ITT.
If ever we need someone to talk to Congress about how online poker isn't rigged, he's my guy.
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You're not going to get any riggie credit with that kind of outlandish thinking.
Spend a lot of time around the game and you see everything.
Each time people feel it is some breaking news kind of thing.
It's no offense to anyone, but most online players are 35 and under.
Some of us have been playing for 25+ years and 15 years or more online.
The stories haven't changed.
I am not looking for "riggie" credit.
My thinking is also not outlandish.
There's a lot of resources out there for anyone to learn from people who crush the game, you can get them for free on Youtube and there's subscription sites which in my opinion is more than generously offered by a number of sources.
Not really a breaking news by any means, but there's really no other response to people exhibiting this type of backward thinking.
They simply just don't really want to get better, and their ego prevents them from admitting that there's holes in their Poker game that can be fixed to turn them into winning players.
For instance, if you're familiar with the Doug Polk vs Jason Koon set over set hand from Poker After Dark, you will see how much difference skill makes.
Jason lost only around 75K in that hand where most people on this forum would have lost 223K.
I actually also really like the recent Barry Greenstein podcast that came out recently although he seems to be lying slightly about the stakes he currently plays at the Gardens, you play your opponents cards and not yours.
Very old saying that you should always repeat to yourself.
The stories won't change because Poker will always be the same game.
I've personally been playing for almost 20 years since age 13.
I also thought Pokerstars was rigged, but by the time I had lost twice with a two card straight flush I didn't because of how much volume I was putting in to get those runouts.
I've also runner runner straight flushed a guy who had quads on the flop.
Maybe I consider myself lucky to have seen so many outliers with just 5-6 million hands.
Part of it is also because people are just clueless about probability theory in general, all Poker aside.
I have taught Statistics at the graduate level in the past to non-majors, and even top medical students as well as surgeons often struggle with the topic.
AsianBobbaD, nobody here is claiming that Pokerstars is rigged.
Pokerstars is a highly reputable site with many years of credability and testing behind it.
Americans would love to have access to Pokerstars, but unless your from NJ that's not possible atm.
Unfortunately Americans have no other realistic options than Global Poker or America's cardroom atm.
America's Cardroom has a realistic RNG but they make it near impossible to cashout on that site, despite how easy it is to deposit.
The players there are also much better than Global Poker players.
Global is the opposite from America's Cardroom.
Easy Deposit, Easy withdraw, SUPER EASY players, but the RNG is just blatantly not poker RNG.
SO you win, but you win much slower than other sites because despite getting it in with the best hand a large majority of the time, it only holds up like 55% of the time regardless of your odds.
That's why most of the "complainers" on this thread are actually still profiting from Global Poker, but the flawed RNG is so blatant that it's impossible to not notice after playing a large amount of hands.
They do this to keep the site active and increase the rake.
Because of this, they feel that don't have to prove that their rng doesn't represent the same probability system as poker.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what's going on here.
All it takes it a decent experienced poker player who has even the slightest understanding of probability and how business works in general.
AsianBobbaD, nobody here is claiming that Pokerstars is rigged.
Pokerstars is a highly reputable site with many years of credability and testing behind it.
Americans would love to have access to Pokerstars, but unless your from NJ that's not possible atm.
Unfortunately Americans have no other realistic options than Global Poker or America's cardroom atm.
America's Cardroom has a realistic RNG but they make it near impossible to cashout on that site, despite how easy it is to deposit.
The players there are also much better than Global Poker players.
Global is the opposite from America's Cardroom.
Easy Deposit, Easy withdraw, SUPER EASY players, but the RNG is just blatantly not poker RNG.
SO you win, but you win much slower than other sites because despite getting it in with the best hand a large majority of the time, it only holds up like 55% of the time regardless of your odds.
That's why most of the "complainers" on this thread are actually still profiting from Global Poker, but the flawed RNG is so blatant that it's impossible to not notice after playing a large amount of hands.
They do this to keep the site active and increase the rake.
Because of this, they feel that don't have to prove that their rng doesn't represent the same probability system as poker.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what's going on here.
All it takes it a decent experienced poker player who has even the slightest understanding of probability and how business works in general.
Lol am I missing something?
So you think pocket aces are 55% on Global against a random hand when it's all in?
If that's the case, you'd always be exploited because usually there's pot odds to call with 45% equity in most all in situations.
Let me know if you've developed a "probability to win by hand" chart or something.
I'm really curious as to how often other hands hold in this special sweepstakes model.
Lol am I missing something?
So you think pocket aces are 55% on Global against a random hand when it's all in?
If that's the case, you'd always be exploited because usually there's pot odds to call with 45% equity in most all in situations.
Let me know if you've developed a "probability to win by hand" chart or something.
I'm really curious as to how often other hands hold in this special sweepstakes model.
If Global would let us review our own hand histories, such a chart could indeed be made.
AsianBobbaD, nobody here is claiming that Pokerstars is rigged.
Of course not, because this is an RNG thread in the Global Poker forum.
Pokerstars is a highly reputable site with many years of credability and testing behind it.
Tell that to the hundreds of people making the same claims about Poker Stars and dozens of other sites that you do about Global, here: They all have provided just as much evidence as you, and many of them have provided more, usually without childish name-calling.
Why should we believe you over them?
I am not looking for "riggie" credit.
My thinking is also not outlandish.
There's a lot of resources out there for anyone to learn from people who crush the game, you can get them for free on Youtube and there's subscription sites which in my opinion is more than generously offered by a number of sources.
Not really a breaking news by any means, but there's really no other response to people exhibiting this type of backward thinking.
They simply just don't really want to get better, and their ego prevents them from admitting that there's holes in their Poker game that can be fixed to turn them into winning players.
For instance, if you're familiar with the Doug Polk vs Jason Koon set over set hand from Poker After Dark, you will see how much difference skill makes.
Jason lost only around 75K in that blackjack pokerstars rigged where most people on this forum would have lost 223K.
I actually also really like the recent Barry Greenstein podcast that came out recently although he seems to be lying slightly about the stakes he currently plays at the Gardens, you play your go here cards and not yours.
Very old saying that you should always repeat to yourself.
The stories won't change because Poker will always be the same game.
I've personally been playing for almost 20 years since age 13.
I also thought Pokerstars was rigged, but by the time I had lost twice with a two card straight flush I didn't because of how much volume I was putting in to get those runouts.
I've also runner runner straight flushed a guy who had quads on the flop.
Maybe I consider myself lucky to have seen so many outliers with just 5-6 million hands.
Part of it is also because people are just clueless about probability theory in general, all Poker aside.
I have taught Statistics at the graduate level in the past to non-majors, and even top medical students as well as surgeons often struggle with the topic.
I started playing later than you and my years add up to most of your life.
I guess that makes me ancient, lol.
I was similar in thinking that Party Poker was rigged 15 years ago or so.
I based it on the 'logic' of probabilities and statistics.
One day, I realized there was no logic to my view because most of it was based on short term conclusions, ie.
Like a light being turned on, I realized that over a specific interval in a period of time there was no assurance of hitting all the percentages correctly.
During a recent series on another network, in a one hour period I was KO'd in three different games when I was 95.
Once upon a time I would shatter keyboards, toss my laptop, etc.
Millions of hands later, I can see I won my fair share of 5%ers, too.
Those don't stick out as much as the ones that beat you.
Way back in the beginning of this comedic thread, it was 'obvious' Global was rigged since they did not have the certification posted.
They posted it and then the rig was obvious because of sweepstakes laws, hand histories missing, or something else.
The claim it makes sense because Global generates more rake; all while paying no attention blackjack pokerstars rigged the fact that the extra rake made from the rig would be offset by the loss of rake from players leaving due to the rig.
Though the use of the words 'blatant' and 'obvious' in those arguments make for good reading.
Some have even suggested that PayPal is not aware of Global, why let a fact like having almost 10 million on deposit with PayPal skew that belief.
If a site is going to be sleazy, they will just steal the money outright.
Unfortunately Americans have no other realistic options than Global Poker or America's cardroom atm.
America's Cardroom has a realistic RNG but they make it near impossible to cashout on that site, despite how easy it is to deposit.
The players there are also much better than Global Poker players.
How is WPN tough to withdraw from???
Put in request, btc received in 24 hours usually.
Yeah, you can't really compare Global to Pokerstars.
Pokerstars for all its faults, at least doesn't go to the great lengths Global does to hide data from players.
Again, you only go to those lengths.
And they can dress it up as concern for players, etc.
But flat out denying players basic access to their own stats is obviously nothing a trustworthy company would ever do.
In NO other walk of life would anyone ever consider this OK.
In no other business.
Only in poker are we told that hiding our own information for us is for our own good, and a bunch of gamblers agree because we're afraid they're going to take our gambling away.
I haven't read much of this thread until the last page or so.
While I won't get into the RNG debate, although in short I don't feel it's rather action driven, I do agree with the poster who had concerns about players seeing their cards.
There are 2 specific players in specific games that I 100% feel they can see my hands as they'd never get to the river action otherwise.
There are a lot of situations that lead me to believe this but I've pulled several HH's and evidence to send over to Global but sadly, I don't feel safe or secure playing on this site anymore.
I'd warn everyone to proceed with caution.
Never looked at this thread before but with the HH downloader gone, tons of posts in this thread, and other people claiming the https://chakefashion.com/blackjack/willow-blackjack-osrs.html is rigged thought I'd share some thoughts: I've played a lot of volume on GP before stopping last December to play on other sites.
It's strongly in the site's interest to have an algo for action as it reduces cashouts, results in more rake, and lowers reg's winrates no one plays their A game while stuck 3bi.
That being said, I don't think it's rigged against any players but the amount of crazy setup hands I saw at NL was super high.
Or just constant ridiculous runouts.
Fish don't care about the site being rigged.
They honestly probably prefer it as it generates action.
It's better for GP to have fewer winning regs that leave over various issues so small winning bots or bad regs who don't care stay instead.
Probably not going to deposit onto GP again until they re-allow HH downloads or some kind of audit.
It's strongly in the site's interest to have an algo for action as it reduces cashouts, results in more rake, and lowers reg's winrates no one plays their A game while stuck 3bi.
I'm curious how this works.
If I were to rig a site to make more money, I'd want to keep pots small and make sure money changed hands more often, generating more rake.
Increasing the number of big pots sounds like a recipe for less rake to me.
Also seems like it would discourage players from returning when they bust out.
It's pretty common for fish to never cash out no matter how much they run up their account so whatever they win just ends up getting raked.
The ideal scenario for a poker room is no one ever cashing out.
Also rigging hands for action ensures money changes hands and flows between accounts, instead of regs just slowly gathering up the money and cashing it out.
There are sites with algos that are rigged basically the apps so it's not like it's impossible for a site to do this.
I've never had these thoughts this web page the sites I've played the most number of hands on lifetime Stars, WPN, FTP I'm certainly not "zomg poker is rigged" type and I'd go back to playing on GP if it were my only option.
It's pretty common for fish to never cash out no matter how much they run up their account so whatever they win just ends up getting raked.
The ideal scenario for a poker room is no one ever cashing out.
Building on this, the last thing a site would want to do then is move huge clumps of money between accounts, because that would increase the chance of someone cashing out.
Sure, people like you believe that donks literally never cash out, but if they quadruple their bankroll with a few lucky hands in cash games, good chance they will cash out some, and the site barely raked those hands compared to having a ton of smaller pots that various people win.
Also rigging hands for action ensures money changes hands and flows between accounts, instead of regs just slowly gathering up the money and cashing it out.
Regs will just win more of the huge pots and cash it out quicker this way, with less rake happening on that money when they do.
Some riggies try to get around this be believing in blackjack commando rigs, or rigs that change depending upon which players are at which tables, even though from an implementation perspective that would be basically impossible, and also impractical.
Riggies really love rigs that make no money for the sites, and usually rigs that would be extremely easy to detect quad rigs and such.
I suppose those are more "sexy" than rigs that would be not noticeable blackjack pokerstars rigged would help create hands that would generate some rake, but not move huge clumps of money at a time or create memorable hands.
Ironically, if a site actually did a rig the odds are the crown casino blackjack would never see it, although they would believe they see rigs that do not exist there instead.
You're arguing the other half of "OMG ALL ONLINE POKER RIGGED I WAS OVERSET " which is that sites are never rigged.
Idk, clearly someone did some research and determined that rigging a game for action is incentivized otherwise it wouldn't happen.
It's a new site, like GP, so I guess their data scientists concluded it was a good idea.
If you don't believe that a site can be rigged in this way try playing on it I can PM you the name if you don't know which one I'm talking about for a month yourself or talk to someone who does.
Games are super good but the riggedness level was too high for me that it honestly wasn't worth the mental stress.
Quote: Sure, people like you believe that donks literally never cash out, but if they quadruple their bankroll with a few lucky hands in cash games, good chance they will cash out some, and the site barely raked those hands compared to having a ton of smaller pots that various people win.
It's really rare for a donk to cash out of anything.
I know tons of donks who literally never took any profit in crypto regardless of how much they were up and I was talking to someone other day who said they didn't even know read article to take profit despite being in crypto for a year.
For someone who claims to not be a "zomg poker is rigged" guy, you are pretty much following the standard guidelines of the" zomg, poker is rigged" guy.
If you want to believe that companies do quad and straight flush rigs instead of a rig that would be much more effective in making money and would not be so obvious, then that is fine.
Riggies tend to love rigs that make no money and would go here stupidly obvious.
After all, you see it just with your eyes playing, along with all your buddies.
https://chakefashion.com/blackjack/blackjack-guide-vegas.html obvious examples: UB officials being involved in cheating scandals, FTP ponzi, and PS now shooting themselves in foot constantly with biz decisions as their traffic dies out.
Many other companies outright scam the players and steal from them; a few that I've played on personally off the top of my head are Dollaro, PKR, and Lock.
this web page got pretty lucky to not be screwed by any of those three but I know quite a few people who have.
Considering the incredibly shady stuff other sites do, is it really that hard more info believe that a site's RNG might be rigged?
Quote: Considering the incredibly shady stuff other sites do, is it really that hard to believe that a site's RNG might be rigged?
It absolutely is possible.
If you don't believe that a site can be rigged in this way I don't think I've ever seen anyone argue that a site can't be rigged in a certain way.
And the only thing I've seen argued in response to your last few posts is rigging it that way wouldn't make sense, not that it couldn't be done.
As for me, I was just curious how you thought it would work, which you answered.
I don't agree, but appreciate the response.
Really obvious examples: UB officials being involved in cheating scandals, FTP ponzi, and PS now shooting themselves in foot constantly with biz decisions as their traffic dies out.
Many other companies outright scam the players and steal from them; a few that I've played on personally off the top of my head are Dollaro, PKR, and Lock.
I got pretty lucky to not be screwed by any of those three but I know quite a few people who have.
Considering the incredibly shady stuff other sites do, is it really that hard to believe that a site's RNG might be rigged?
It probably does not take a genius to decide if they are going to rig it magically, that they will do so in a way that is harder to catch.
I doubt the rig brainstorming session goes along the lines of Evil backroomboy - How do we steal peoples blackjack pokerstars rigged best?
Mustache Twirler - I know!
Lets have lots of quads and straight flushes dealt Fatcat - Yeah, nobody will notice those!
Best part is that will lower how much rake we make at the same time!
Evil Corporate Dude - You guys are so smart, and if anyone sees it with their own eyes they will say we can never be caught and then list a lot of companies who were caught doing bad but unrelated things.
Trump Supporter - This will make America great check this out />Sad part dude - most riggie theories make the above chat seem rational he then gets tossed out of a window like in the popular meme.
Really obvious examples: UB officials being involved in cheating scandals, FTP ponzi, and PS now shooting themselves in foot constantly with biz decisions as their traffic dies out.
Many other companies outright scam the players and steal from them; a few that I've played on personally off the top of my head are Dollaro, PKR, and Lock.
I got pretty lucky to not be screwed by any of those three but I know quite a few people who have.
Considering the incredibly shady stuff other sites do, is it really that hard to believe that a site's RNG might be rigged?
None of those sites had a rigged RNG and other than PS, they were outright stealing the money.
Full Flush, Lock, and seems Jao I heard were doing the same.
The problem with rig theories is there is almost never any non-anecdotal evidence and they rarely make sense.
Any rigs suggested in this thread are illogical.
It isn't lack of hand histories, sites with them still have riggie claims.
Prior to that, it was rigged because of no certification.
That was posted and it's off to the next thing.
This site plays like Party Poker did in 2004-2006.
It's like Zynga Poker because it is the exact same player base that makes up 90% of the Global player base.
The riggie thread has claims of every site, regardless of how much data is supplied by the networks.
It doesnt matter what global does or does not do, a certain percentage will claim it is rigged, shady, altered for action.
The claims will all be proven with hunches and liberal use of words like 'obviously' in describing the rig.
What is the benefit to a site to rig the games?
Someone is always going to win a pot.
The winners will keep playing, most of the losers will keep reloading, and the rake will continue.
Obvious rigs would get exploited by the smart players and the general player base would publicly out the network.
What do they have to gain?
If a network wants to be shady, operate out of a tax haven nation and eventually steal all this web page player's funds.
It's been done often enough, less effort more I'll begotten gains.

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You're not going to get any riggie credit with that kind of outlandish thinking.
Spend a lot of time around the check this out and you see everything.
Each time people feel it is some breaking news kind of thing.
It's no offense to anyone, but most online players are 35 and under.
Some of us have been playing for 25+ years and 15 years or more online.
The stories haven't changed.
I love love love the guy who compared Global Poker to NFL Blitz.
What in the hell is a soyboy?
Does it have something to do with the US-China TRADE WAR on soy?
Monteroy is on point ITT.
If ever we need someone to talk to Congress about how online poker isn't rigged, he's my guy.
Edit: Urban Dictionary: Slang used to describe males who completely and utterly lack all necessary masculine qualities.
You're not going to get any riggie credit with that kind of outlandish thinking.
Spend a lot of time around the game and you see everything.
Each time people feel it is some breaking news kind of thing.
It's no offense to anyone, but most online players are 35 and under.
Some of us have been playing for 25+ years and 15 years or more online.
The stories haven't changed.
I am not looking for "riggie" credit.
My thinking is also not outlandish.
There's a lot of resources out there for anyone to learn from people who crush the game, you can get them for free on Youtube and there's subscription sites which in my opinion is more than generously offered by a number of sources.
Not really a breaking news by any means, but there's really no other response to people exhibiting this type of backward thinking.
They simply just don't really want to get better, and their ego prevents them from admitting that there's holes in their Poker game that can be fixed to turn them into winning players.
For instance, if you're familiar with the Doug Polk vs Jason Koon set over set hand from Poker After Dark, you will see how much difference skill makes.
Jason lost only around 75K in that hand where most people on this forum would have lost 223K.
I actually also really like the recent Barry Greenstein podcast that came out recently although he seems to be lying slightly about the stakes he currently plays at the Gardens, you play your opponents cards and not yours.
Very old saying that you should always repeat to yourself.
The stories won't change because Poker will always be the same game.
I've personally been playing for almost 20 years since age 13.
I also thought Pokerstars was rigged, but by the time I had lost twice with a two card reglas de blackjack dealer flush I didn't because of how much volume I was putting in 5 dollar on vegas get those runouts.
I've also runner runner straight flushed a guy who had quads on the flop.
Maybe I consider myself lucky to have seen so many outliers with just 5-6 million hands.
Part of it is also because people are just clueless about probability theory in general, all Poker aside.
I have taught Statistics at the graduate level in the past to non-majors, and even top medical students as well as surgeons often struggle with the topic.
AsianBobbaD, nobody here is claiming that Pokerstars is rigged.
Pokerstars is a highly reputable site with many years of credability and testing behind it.
Americans would love to have access to Pokerstars, but unless your from NJ that's not possible atm.
Unfortunately Americans have no other realistic options than Global Poker or America's cardroom atm.
America's Cardroom has a realistic RNG but blackjack pokerstars rigged make it near impossible to cashout on that site, despite how easy it is to deposit.
The players there are also much better than Global Poker players.
Global is the opposite from America's Cardroom.
Easy Deposit, Easy withdraw, SUPER EASY players, but the RNG is just blatantly not poker RNG.
SO you win, but you win much slower than other sites because despite getting it in with the best hand a large majority of the time, it only holds up like 55% of please click for source time regardless of your odds.
That's why most of the "complainers" on this thread are actually still profiting from Global Poker, but the flawed RNG is so blatant that it's impossible to not notice after playing a large amount of hands.
They do this to keep the site active and increase the rake.
Because of this, they feel that don't have to prove that their rng doesn't represent the same probability system as poker.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what's going on here.
All it takes it a decent experienced poker player who has even the slightest understanding of probability and how business works in general.
AsianBobbaD, nobody here is claiming that Pokerstars is rigged.
Pokerstars is a highly reputable site with many years of credability and testing behind it.
Americans would love to have access to Pokerstars, but unless your from NJ that's not possible atm.
Unfortunately Americans have no other realistic options than Global Poker or America's cardroom atm.
America's Cardroom has a realistic RNG but they make it near impossible to cashout on that site, despite how easy it is to deposit.
The players there are also much better than Global Poker players.
Global is the opposite from America's Cardroom.
Easy Deposit, Easy withdraw, SUPER EASY players, but the RNG is just blatantly not poker RNG.
SO you win, but you win much slower than other sites because despite getting it in with the best hand a large majority of the time, it only holds up like 55% of the time regardless of your odds.
That's why most of the "complainers" on this thread are actually still profiting from Global Poker, but the flawed RNG is so blatant that it's impossible to not notice after playing a large amount of hands.
They do this to keep the site active and increase the rake.
Because of this, they feel that don't have to prove that their rng doesn't represent the same probability system as poker.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what's going on here.
All it takes it a decent experienced poker player who has even the slightest understanding of probability and how business works in general.
Lol am I missing something?
So you think pocket aces are 55% on Global against a random hand when it's all in?
If that's the case, you'd always be exploited because usually there's pot odds to call with 45% equity in most all in situations.
Let me know if you've developed a "probability to win by hand" chart or something.
I'm really curious as to how often other hands hold in this special sweepstakes model.
Lol am I missing something?
So you think pocket aces are 55% on Global against a random hand when it's all in?
If that's the case, you'd always be exploited because usually there's pot odds to call with 45% equity in most all in situations.
Let me know if you've developed a "probability to win by hand" chart or something.
I'm really curious as to how often other hands hold in this special sweepstakes model.
If Global would let us review our own hand histories, such a chart could indeed be made.
AsianBobbaD, nobody here is claiming that Pokerstars is rigged.
Of course not, because this is an RNG thread in the Global Poker forum.
Pokerstars is a blackjack pokerstars rigged reputable site with many years of credability and testing behind it.
Tell that to the hundreds of people making the same claims about Poker Stars and dozens of other sites that you do about Global, here: They all have provided just as much evidence as you, and many of them have provided more, usually without childish name-calling.
Why should we believe you over them?
I am not looking for "riggie" credit.
My thinking is also not outlandish.
There's a lot of resources out there for anyone to learn from people who crush the game, you can get them for free on Youtube and there's subscription sites which in my opinion is more than generously offered by a number of sources.
Not really a breaking news by any means, but there's really no other response to people exhibiting this type of backward thinking.
They simply just don't really want to get better, and their ego prevents them from admitting that there's holes in their Poker game that can be fixed to turn them into winning players.
For instance, if you're familiar with the Doug Polk vs Jason Koon set over set hand from Poker After Dark, you will see how much difference skill makes.
Jason lost only around 75K in that hand where most people on this forum would have lost 223K.
I actually also really like the recent Barry Greenstein podcast that came out recently although he seems to be lying slightly about the stakes he currently plays at the Gardens, you play your opponents cards and not yours.
Very old saying that you should always repeat to yourself.
The stories won't change because Poker will always be the same game.
I've personally been playing for almost 20 years since age 13.
I also thought Pokerstars was rigged, but by the time I had lost twice with a two card straight flush I didn't because of how much volume I was putting in to get those runouts.
I've also runner runner straight flushed a guy who had quads on the flop.
Maybe I consider myself lucky to have seen so many outliers with just 5-6 million hands.
Part of it is also because people are just clueless about probability theory in general, all Poker aside.
I have taught Statistics at the graduate level in the past to non-majors, and even top medical students as well as surgeons often struggle with the topic.
I started playing later than you and my years add up to most of your life.
I guess that makes me ancient, lol.
I was similar in thinking that Party Poker was rigged 15 years ago or so.
I based it on the 'logic' of probabilities and statistics.
One day, I realized there was no logic to my view because most of it was based on short term conclusions, ie.
Like a light being turned on, I realized that over a specific interval in a period of time there was no assurance of hitting all the percentages correctly.
During a recent series on another network, in a one hour period I was KO'd in three different games when I was 95.
Once upon a time I would shatter keyboards, toss my laptop, etc.
Millions of hands later, I can see I won my fair share of 5%ers, too.
Those don't stick out as much as the ones that beat you.
Way back in the beginning of this comedic thread, it was 'obvious' Global was rigged since they did not have the certification posted.
They posted it and then the rig was obvious because of sweepstakes laws, hand histories missing, or something else.
The claim it makes sense because Global generates more rake; all while paying no attention to the fact that the extra rake made from the rig would be offset by the loss of rake from players leaving due to the rig.
Though the use of the words 'blatant' and 'obvious' in those arguments make for good reading.
Some have even suggested that PayPal is not aware of Global, why let a fact like having almost 10 million on deposit with PayPal skew that belief.
If a site is going to be sleazy, they will just steal the money outright.
Unfortunately Americans have no other realistic options than Global Poker or America's cardroom atm.
America's Cardroom has a realistic RNG but they make it near impossible to cashout on that site, despite how easy it is to deposit.
The players there are also much better than Global Poker players.
How is WPN tough to withdraw from???
Put in request, btc received in 24 hours usually.
Yeah, you can't really compare Global to Pokerstars.
Pokerstars for all its faults, at least doesn't go to the great lengths Global does to hide data from players.
Again, you only go to those lengths.
And they can dress it up as concern for players, etc.
But flat out denying players basic access to their own stats is obviously nothing a trustworthy company would ever do.
In NO other walk of life would anyone ever consider this OK.
In no other business.
Only in poker are we told that hiding our own information for us is for our own good, and a bunch of gamblers agree because we're afraid they're going to take our gambling away.
I haven't read much of this thread until the last page or so.
While I won't get into the RNG debate, although in short I don't feel it's rather action driven, I do agree with the poster who had concerns about players seeing their cards.
There are 2 specific players in specific games that I 100% feel they can see my hands as they'd never get to the river action otherwise.
There are a lot of situations that lead me to believe this but I've pulled several HH's and evidence to send over to Global but sadly, I don't feel safe or secure playing on this site anymore.
I'd warn everyone to proceed with caution.
Never looked at this thread before but with the HH downloader gone, tons of posts in this thread, and other people claiming the site is rigged thought I'd share some thoughts: I've played a lot of volume on GP before stopping last December to play on other sites.
It's strongly in the site's interest to have an algo for action as it reduces cashouts, results in more rake, and lowers reg's winrates no one plays their A game while stuck 3bi.
That being said, I don't think it's rigged against any players but the amount of crazy setup hands I saw at NL was super high.
Or just constant ridiculous runouts.
Fish happens. positive expected value blackjack for care about the site being rigged.
They honestly probably prefer it as it generates action.
It's better for GP to have fewer winning regs that leave over various issues so small winning bots or bad regs who don't care stay instead.
Probably not going to deposit onto GP again until they re-allow HH downloads or some kind of audit.
It's strongly in the vegas craps fire bet interest to have an algo for action as it reduces cashouts, results in more rake, and lowers reg's winrates no one plays their A game while stuck 3bi.
I'm curious how this works.
If I were to rig a site to make more money, I'd want to keep pots small read more make sure money changed hands more often, generating more rake.
Increasing the number of big pots sounds like a recipe for less rake to me.
Also seems like it would discourage players from returning when they bust out.
It's pretty common for fish to never cash out no matter how much they run up their account so whatever they win just ends up getting raked.
The ideal scenario for a poker room is no one ever cashing out.
Also rigging hands for action ensures money changes hands and flows between accounts, instead of regs just slowly gathering up the money and cashing it out.
There are sites with algos that are rigged basically the apps so it's not like it's impossible for a site to do this.
I've never had these thoughts about the sites I've played the most number of hands on lifetime Stars, WPN, FTP I'm certainly not "zomg poker is rigged" type and I'd go back to playing on GP if it were my only option.
It's pretty common for fish to never cash out no matter how much they run up their account so whatever they win just ends up getting raked.
The ideal scenario for a poker room is no one ever cashing out.
Building on this, the last thing a site would want to do then is move huge clumps of money between accounts, because that would increase the chance of someone cashing out.
Sure, people like you believe that donks literally never cash out, but if they quadruple their bankroll with a few lucky hands in cash games, good chance they will cash out some, and the site barely raked those hands compared to having a ton of smaller pots that various people win.
Also rigging hands for action ensures money changes hands and flows between accounts, instead of regs just slowly gathering up the money and cashing it out.
Regs will opinion, myvegas blackjack coins phrase win more of the huge pots and cash it out quicker this way, with less rake happening on that money when they do.
Some riggies try to get around this be believing in personalized rigs, or rigs that change depending upon which players are at which tables, even though from an implementation perspective that would be basically blackjack casinos in miami with, and also impractical.
Riggies really love rigs that make no money for the sites, and usually rigs that would be extremely easy to detect quad rigs and such.
I suppose those are more "sexy" than rigs that would be not noticeable and would help create hands that would generate some rake, but not move huge clumps of money at a time or create memorable hands.
Ironically, if a site actually did blackjack pokerstars rigged rig the odds are the riggies would never see it, although they would believe they see rigs that do not exist there instead.
You're arguing the other half of "OMG ALL ONLINE POKER RIGGED I WAS OVERSET " which is that sites are never rigged.
Idk, clearly someone did some research and determined that rigging a game for action is incentivized otherwise it wouldn't happen.
It's a new site, like GP, so I guess their data scientists concluded it was a good idea.
If you don't believe that a site can be rigged in this way try playing on it I can PM you the name if you don't know which one I'm talking about for a month yourself or learn more here to someone who does.
Games are super good but the riggedness level was too high for me that it honestly wasn't worth the mental stress.
Quote: Sure, people like you believe that donks literally never cash out, but if they quadruple their bankroll with a few lucky hands in cash games, good chance they will cash out some, and the site barely raked those hands compared to having a ton of smaller pots that various people win.
It's really rare for a donk to cash out of anything.
I know tons of donks who literally never took any profit in crypto regardless of how much they were up and I was talking to someone other day who said they didn't even know how to take profit despite being in crypto for a year.
For someone who claims to not be a "zomg poker is rigged" guy, you are pretty much following the standard guidelines of the" zomg, poker is rigged" guy.
If you want to believe that companies do quad and straight flush rigs instead of a rig that would be much more effective in making money and would not be so obvious, then that is fine.
Riggies tend to love rigs that make no money and would be stupidly obvious.
After all, you see it just with your eyes playing, along with all your buddies.
Really obvious examples: UB officials being involved in cheating scandals, FTP ponzi, and PS now shooting themselves in foot constantly with biz decisions as their traffic dies out.
Many other companies outright scam the players and steal from them; a few that I've played on personally off the top of my head are Dollaro, PKR, and Lock.
I got pretty lucky to not be screwed by any of those three but I know quite a few people who have.
Considering the incredibly shady stuff other sites do, is it really that hard to believe that a site's RNG might be rigged?
Quote: Considering the incredibly shady stuff other sites do, is it really that hard to believe that a site's RNG might be rigged?
It absolutely is possible.
If you don't believe that a site can be rigged in this way I don't think I've ever seen anyone argue that a site can't be rigged in a certain way.
And the only thing I've seen argued in response to your last few posts is rigging it that way wouldn't make sense, not that it couldn't be done.
As for me, I was just curious how you thought it would work, which you answered.
I don't agree, but appreciate the response.
Really obvious examples: UB officials being involved in cheating scandals, FTP ponzi, and PS now shooting themselves in foot constantly with biz decisions blackjack pokerstars rigged their traffic dies out.
Many other companies outright scam the players and steal from them; a few that I've played on personally off the top of my head are Dollaro, PKR, and Lock.
I got pretty lucky to not be screwed by any of those three but I know quite a few people who have.
Considering the incredibly shady stuff other sites do, is it really that hard to believe that a site's RNG might be rigged?
It probably does not take a genius to decide if they are going to rig it magically, that they will do so in a way that is harder to catch.
I doubt the rig brainstorming session goes along the lines of Evil backroomboy - How do we steal peoples money best?
Mustache Twirler - I know!
Lets have lots of quads and straight flushes dealt Fatcat - Yeah, nobody will notice those!
Best part is that will lower how much rake we make at the same time!
Evil Corporate Dude - You guys are so smart, and if anyone sees it with click to see more own eyes they will say we can never be caught and then list a lot of companies who were craps buy bet doing bad but unrelated things.
Trump Supporter - This will make America great again.
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Really obvious examples: UB officials being involved in cheating scandals, FTP ponzi, and PS now shooting themselves in foot constantly with biz decisions as their traffic dies out.
Many other companies outright scam the players and steal from them; a few that I've played on personally off online poker legal zealand top of my head are Dollaro, PKR, and Lock.
I got pretty lucky to not be screwed by any of those three but I know quite a few people who have.
Considering the incredibly shady stuff other sites do, is it really that hard to believe that a site's RNG might be rigged?
None of those sites had a rigged RNG and other than PS, they were outright stealing the money.
Full Flush, Lock, and seems Jao I heard were doing the same.
The problem with rig theories is there is almost never any non-anecdotal evidence and they rarely make sense.
Any rigs suggested in this thread are illogical.
It isn't lack of hand histories, sites with them still have riggie claims.
Prior to that, https://chakefashion.com/blackjack/pch-blackjack-tournament.html was rigged because of no certification.
That was posted and https://chakefashion.com/blackjack/blackjack-knives-classic-model-125.html off to the next thing.
This site plays like Party Poker did in 2004-2006.
It's like Zynga Poker because it is the exact same player base that makes up 90% of the Global player base.
The riggie thread login blackjack promotions claims of every site, regardless of how much data is supplied by the networks.
It doesnt matter what global does or does not do, a certain percentage will claim it is rigged, shady, altered for action.
The claims will all be proven with hunches and liberal use of words like 'obviously' in describing the rig.
What is the benefit to a site to rig the games?
Someone is always going to win a pot.
The winners will keep playing, most of the losers will keep reloading, and the rake will continue.
Obvious rigs would get exploited by the smart players and the general player base would publicly out the network.
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You're not going to get any riggie credit with that kind of outlandish thinking.
Spend a lot of time around the game and you see everything.
Each time people feel it is some breaking news kind of thing.
It's no offense to anyone, but most online players are 35 and under.
Some of us have been playing for 25+ years and 15 years or more online.
The stories haven't changed.
I love love love the guy who compared Global Poker to NFL Blitz.
What in the hell is a soyboy?
Does it have something to do with the US-China TRADE WAR on soy?
Monteroy is on point ITT.
If ever we need someone to talk to Congress about how online poker isn't rigged, he's my guy.
Edit: Urban Dictionary: Slang used to describe males who completely and utterly lack all necessary masculine qualities.
You're not going to get any riggie credit with that kind of outlandish thinking.
Spend a lot of time around the game and you see everything.
Each time people feel it is some breaking news kind of thing.
It's no offense to anyone, but most online players are 35 and under.
Some of us have been playing for 25+ years and 15 years or more online.
The stories haven't changed.
I am not looking for "riggie" credit.
My thinking is also not outlandish.
There's a lot of resources out there for anyone to learn from people who crush the game, you can get them for free on Youtube and there's subscription sites which in my opinion is more than generously offered by a number of sources.
Not really a breaking news by any means, but there's really no other response to people exhibiting this type of backward thinking.
They blackjack pokerstars rigged just don't really want to get better, and their ego prevents them from admitting that there's holes in their Poker game that can be fixed to turn them into winning players.
For instance, if you're familiar with the Doug Polk vs Jason Koon set over set hand from Poker After Dark, you will see how much difference skill makes.
Jason lost only around 75K in that hand where most people on this forum would have lost 223K.
I actually also really like the recent Barry Greenstein podcast that came out recently although he seems to be lying slightly about the stakes he currently plays at the Gardens, you play your opponents cards and not yours.
Very old saying that you should always repeat to yourself.
The stories won't change well, blackjack system strategy counting the Poker will always be the same game.
I've personally been playing for almost 20 years since age 13.
I also thought Pokerstars was rigged, but by the time I had lost twice with a two card straight flush I didn't because of how much volume I was putting in to get those runouts.
I've also runner runner straight flushed a guy who had quads on the flop.
Maybe I consider myself lucky to have seen so many outliers with just 5-6 million hands.
Part of it is also because people are just clueless about probability theory in general, all Poker aside.
I have taught Statistics at the graduate level in the past to non-majors, and even top medical students as well as surgeons often struggle with the topic.
AsianBobbaD, nobody here is claiming that Pokerstars is rigged.
Pokerstars is a highly reputable site with many years of credability and testing behind it.
Americans would love to have access to Pokerstars, but unless your from NJ that's not possible atm.
Unfortunately Americans have no other realistic options than Global Poker or America's cardroom atm.
America's Cardroom has a deck blackjack card counting RNG but they make it near impossible to cashout on that site, despite how easy it is to deposit.
The players there are also much better than Global Poker players.
Global is the opposite from America's Cardroom.
Easy Deposit, Easy withdraw, SUPER EASY players, but the RNG is just blatantly not poker RNG.
SO you win, but you win much slower than other sites because despite getting it in with the best hand a large majority of the time, it only holds up like 55% of the time regardless of your odds.
That's why most of the "complainers" on this thread are actually still profiting from Global Poker, but the flawed RNG is so blatant that it's impossible to not notice after playing a large amount of hands.
They do this to keep the site active and increase the rake.
Because of this, they feel that don't have to prove that their rng doesn't represent the same probability system as poker.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what's going on here.
All it takes it a just click for source experienced poker player who has even the slightest understanding of probability and how business works in general.
AsianBobbaD, nobody here is claiming that Pokerstars is rigged.
Pokerstars is a highly reputable site with many years of credability and testing behind it.
Americans would love to have access to Pokerstars, but unless your from NJ that's not possible atm.
Unfortunately Americans have no other realistic options than Global Poker or America's cardroom atm.
America's Cardroom has a realistic RNG but they make it near impossible to cashout on that site, despite how easy it is to deposit.
The players there are also much better than Global Poker players.
Global is the opposite from America's Cardroom.
Easy Deposit, Easy withdraw, SUPER EASY players, but the RNG is just blatantly not poker RNG.
SO you win, but you win much slower than other sites because despite getting it in with the best hand a large majority of the time, it only holds up like 55% of the time regardless of your odds.
That's why most of the "complainers" on this thread are actually still profiting from Global Poker, but the flawed RNG is so blatant that it's impossible to not notice after playing a large amount of hands.
They do this to keep the site active and increase the rake.
Because of this, they feel that don't have to prove that their rng doesn't represent the same probability system as poker.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what's going on here.
All it takes it a decent experienced poker player who has even the slightest understanding of probability and how business works in general.
Lol am I missing something?
So you think pocket aces are 55% on Global against a random hand when it's all in?
If that's the case, you'd always be exploited because usually there's pot odds to call with 45% equity in most all in situations.
Let me know if you've developed a "probability to win by hand" chart or something.
I'm really curious as to how often other hands hold in this special sweepstakes model.
Lol am I missing something?
So you think pocket aces are 55% on Global against a random hand when it's all in?
If that's the case, you'd always be exploited because usually there's pot odds to call with 45% equity in most all in situations.
Let me know if you've developed a "probability to win by hand" chart or something.
I'm really curious as to how often other hands hold in this special sweepstakes model.
If Global would let us review our own hand histories, such a chart could indeed be made.
AsianBobbaD, nobody here is claiming that Pokerstars is rigged.
Of course not, because this is an RNG thread in the Global Poker forum.
Pokerstars is a highly reputable site with many years of credability and testing behind it.
Tell that to the hundreds of people making the same claims about Poker Stars and dozens of other sites that you do about Global, here: They all have provided just as much evidence as you, and many of them have provided more, usually without childish name-calling.
Why should we believe you over them?
I am not looking for "riggie" credit.
My thinking is also not outlandish.
There's a lot of resources out there for anyone to learn from people who crush the game, you can get them for free on Youtube and there's subscription sites which in my opinion is more than generously offered by a number of sources.
Not really a breaking news by any means, but there's really no other response to people exhibiting this type of backward thinking.
click the following article simply just don't really want to get better, and their ego prevents them from admitting that there's holes in their Poker game that can be fixed to turn them into winning players.
For instance, if you're familiar with the Doug Polk vs Jason Koon set over set hand from Poker After Dark, you will see how much difference skill makes.
Jason lost only around 75K in that hand where most people on this forum would have lost 223K.
I actually also really like the recent Barry Greenstein podcast that came out recently although he seems to be lying slightly about the stakes he currently plays at the Gardens, you play your opponents cards and not yours.
Very old saying that you should always repeat to yourself.
The stories won't change because Poker will always be the same game.
I've personally been playing for almost 20 years since age 13.
I also thought Pokerstars was rigged, but by the time I had lost twice with a two card straight flush I didn't because of how much volume I was putting in to get those runouts.
I've also runner source straight flushed a guy who had quads on the flop.
Maybe 21 blackjack dungeon consider myself lucky to have seen so many outliers with just 5-6 million hands.
Part of it is also because people are just clueless about probability theory in general, all Poker aside.
I have taught Statistics at the graduate level in the past to non-majors, and even top medical students as well as surgeons often struggle with the topic.
I started playing later than you and my years add up to most of your life.
I guess that makes me ancient, lol.
I was similar in thinking that Party Poker was rigged 15 years ago or so.
I based it on the 'logic' of probabilities and statistics.
One day, I blackjack pokerstars rigged there was no logic to my view because most of it was based on short term conclusions, ie.
Like a light being turned on, I realized that over a specific interval in a period of time there was no assurance of hitting all the percentages correctly.
During a recent series on another network, in a one hour period I was KO'd in three different games when I was 95.
read more upon a time I would shatter keyboards, toss my laptop, etc.
Millions of hands later, I can see I won my visit web page share of 5%ers, too.
Those don't stick out as much as the ones that beat you.
Way back in the beginning of this comedic thread, it was 'obvious' Global was rigged since they did not have the certification posted.
They posted it and then the rig was obvious because of sweepstakes laws, hand histories missing, or something else.
The claim it makes sense because Global generates more rake; all while paying no attention to the fact that the extra rake made from the rig would be offset by the loss of rake from players blackjack pokerstars rigged due to the rig.
Though the use of the words 'blatant' and 'obvious' in those arguments make for good reading.
Some have even suggested that PayPal is not aware of Global, why let a fact like having almost 10 million on deposit with PayPal skew that belief.
If a site is going to be sleazy, they will just steal the money outright.
Unfortunately Americans have no other realistic options than Global Poker or America's cardroom atm.
America's Cardroom has a realistic RNG but they make it near impossible to cashout on that site, despite how easy it is to deposit.
The players there are also much better than Global Poker players.
How is WPN tough to withdraw from???
Put in request, btc received in 24 hours usually.
Yeah, you can't really compare Global to Pokerstars.
Pokerstars for all its faults, at least doesn't go to the great lengths Global does to hide data from players.
Again, you only go to those lengths.
And they can dress it up as concern for players, etc.
But flat out denying players basic access to their own stats is obviously nothing a trustworthy company would ever do.
In NO other walk of life would anyone ever consider this OK.
In no other business.
Only in poker are we told that hiding our own information for us is for our own good, and a bunch of gamblers agree because we're afraid they're going to take our gambling away.
I haven't read much of this thread until the last page or so.
While I won't get into the RNG debate, although in short I don't feel it's rather action driven, I do agree with the poster who had concerns about players seeing their cards.
There are 2 specific players in specific games that I 100% feel they can see my hands as they'd never get to the river action otherwise.
There are a lot of situations that lead me to believe this but I've pulled several HH's and evidence to send over to Global but sadly, I don't feel safe or secure playing on this site anymore.
I'd warn everyone to proceed with caution.
Never looked at this thread before but with the HH downloader gone, tons of posts in this thread, and other people claiming the site is rigged thought I'd share some thoughts: I've played a lot of volume on GP before stopping last December to play on other sites.
It's strongly in the site's interest to have an algo for action as it reduces cashouts, results in more rake, and lowers reg's winrates no one plays their A game while stuck 3bi.
That being said, I don't think it's rigged against any players but the amount of crazy setup hands I saw at NL was super high.
Or just constant ridiculous runouts.
Fish don't care about the site being rigged.
They honestly probably prefer it as it generates action.
It's better for GP to have fewer winning regs that leave over various issues so small winning bots or bad regs who don't care stay instead.
Probably not going to deposit onto GP again until they re-allow HH downloads or some kind of audit.
It's strongly in the site's interest to have an algo for action as it reduces cashouts, results in more rake, and lowers reg's winrates no one plays their A game while stuck 3bi.
I'm curious how this works.
If I were to rig a site to make more money, I'd want to keep pots small and make sure money changed hands more often, generating more rake.
Increasing the number of big pots sounds like a recipe for less rake to me.
Also seems like it would discourage players from returning when they bust out.
It's pretty common for fish to never cash out no matter how much they run up their account so whatever they win just ends up getting raked.
The ideal scenario for a poker room is no one ever cashing out.
Also rigging hands for action ensures money changes hands and flows between accounts, instead of regs just slowly gathering up the money and cashing it out.
There are sites with algos that are rigged basically the apps so it's not like it's impossible for a site to do this.
I've never had these thoughts about the sites I've played the most number of hands on lifetime Stars, WPN, FTP I'm certainly not "zomg poker is rigged" type and I'd go back to playing on GP if it were my only option.
It's pretty common for fish to never cash out no matter how much they run up their account so whatever they win just ends up getting raked.
The ideal scenario for a poker room is no one ever cashing out.
Building blackjack pokerstars rigged this, the last thing a site would want to do then is move huge clumps of money between accounts, because that would increase the chance of someone cashing out.
Sure, people like you believe that donks literally never cash out, but if they quadruple their bankroll with a few lucky hands in cash games, good chance they will cash out some, and the site barely raked those hands compared to having a ton of smaller pots that various people win.
Also rigging hands for action ensures money changes hands and flows between accounts, instead of regs just slowly gathering up the money and cashing it out.
Regs will just win more of the huge pots and cash it out quicker this way, with less rake happening on that money when they do.
Some riggies try to get around this be believing in personalized rigs, or rigs that change depending upon which players are at which tables, even though from an implementation perspective that would be basically impossible, and also impractical.
Riggies really love rigs that make no money for the sites, and usually rigs that would be extremely easy to detect quad rigs and such.
I suppose those are more "sexy" than rigs that would be not noticeable and would help create hands that would generate some rake, but not move huge clumps of money at a time or create memorable hands.
Ironically, if a site actually did a rig the odds are the riggies would never see it, although they would believe they see rigs that do not exist there instead.
You're arguing the other half of "OMG ALL ONLINE POKER RIGGED I WAS OVERSET " which is that sites are never rigged.
Idk, clearly someone did some research and determined that rigging a game for action is incentivized otherwise it wouldn't happen.
It's a new site, like GP, so I guess their data scientists concluded it was a good idea.
If you don't believe that a site can be rigged in this way try playing on it I can PM you the name if you don't know which one I'm talking about for a month yourself or talk to someone who does.
Games are super good but the riggedness level was too high for me that it honestly wasn't worth the mental stress.
Quote: Sure, people like you believe that donks literally never cash out, but if they quadruple their bankroll with a few lucky hands in cash games, good chance they will cash out some, and the site barely raked those hands compared to having a ton of smaller pots that various people win.
It's really rare for a donk to cash out of anything.
I know tons of donks who literally never took any profit in crypto regardless of how much they were up and I was talking to someone other day who said they didn't even know how to take profit despite being in crypto for a year.
For someone who claims to not be a "zomg poker is rigged" guy, you are pretty much following the standard guidelines of the" zomg, poker is rigged" guy.
If you want to believe that companies do quad and straight flush rigs instead of a rig that would be much more effective in making money and would not be so obvious, then that is fine.
Riggies tend to love rigs that make no money and would be stupidly obvious.
After all, you see it just with your eyes playing, along with all blackjack pokerstars rigged buddies.
Really obvious examples: UB officials being involved blackjack pokerstars rigged cheating scandals, FTP ponzi, and PS now shooting themselves in foot constantly with biz decisions as their traffic dies out.
Many other companies outright scam the players and steal from them; a few that I've played on personally off the top of my head are Dollaro, PKR, and Lock.
I got pretty lucky to not be screwed by any of those three but I know quite a few people who have.
Considering the incredibly shady stuff other sites do, is it really that hard to believe that a site's RNG might be rigged?
Quote: Considering the incredibly shady stuff other sites do, is it really that hard to believe that a site's RNG might be rigged?
It absolutely is possible.
If you don't believe that a site can be rigged in this way I don't think I've ever seen anyone argue that a site can't be rigged in a certain way.
And the only thing I've seen argued in response to your last few posts is rigging it that way wouldn't make sense, not interblock hand blackjack it couldn't be done.
As for me, I was just curious how you thought it would work, which you answered.
I don't agree, but appreciate the response.
Really obvious examples: UB officials being involved in cheating scandals, FTP ponzi, and PS now shooting themselves in foot constantly with biz decisions as their traffic dies out.
Many other companies outright scam the players and steal from them; a few that I've played on personally off the top of my head are Dollaro, PKR, and Lock.
I got pretty lucky to not be screwed by any of those three but I know quite a few people who have.
Considering the incredibly shady stuff other sites do, is it really that hard to believe that a site's RNG might be rigged?
It probably does not take a genius to decide if they are going to rig it magically, that read more will do so in a way that is harder to catch.
I doubt the rig brainstorming session goes along the lines of Evil backroomboy - How do we steal peoples money best?
Mustache Twirler - I know!
Lets have lots of quads and straight flushes dealt Fatcat - Yeah, nobody will notice those!
Best part is that will lower how much rake we make at the same time!
Evil Corporate Dude - You guys are so smart, and if anyone sees it with their own eyes they will say we can never be caught and then list a lot of companies who were caught doing bad but unrelated things.
Trump Supporter - This will make America great again.
Sad part dude - most riggie theories make the above chat seem rational he then gets tossed out tie you what blackjack if in a window like in the popular meme.
Really obvious examples: UB officials being involved in cheating scandals, FTP ponzi, and PS now shooting themselves in foot constantly with biz decisions as their traffic dies out.
Many other companies outright scam the players and steal from them; a few that I've played on personally off the top of my head are Dollaro, PKR, and Lock.
I got pretty lucky to not be screwed by any of those three but I know quite a few people who have.
Considering the incredibly shady stuff other sites do, is it really that hard to believe that a site's RNG might be rigged?
None of those sites had a rigged RNG and other than PS, they were outright stealing the money.
Full Flush, Lock, and seems Jao I heard were doing the same.
The problem with rig theories is there is almost never any non-anecdotal evidence and they rarely make speaking, sky vegas mobile blackjack cheat think />Any rigs suggested in this thread are illogical.
It isn't lack of hand histories, sites with them still have riggie claims.
Prior to that, it was rigged because of no certification.
That was posted and it's off to the next thing.
This site plays like Party Poker did in 2004-2006.
It's like Zynga Poker because it is the exact same player base that makes up 90% of the Global player base.
The riggie thread has claims of every site, regardless of how much data is supplied by the networks.
It doesnt matter what global does or does not do, a certain percentage will claim it is rigged, shady, altered for action.
The claims will all be proven with hunches and liberal use of words like 'obviously' in describing the rig.
What is the benefit to a site to rig the games?
Someone is always going to win a pot.
The winners will keep playing, most of the losers will keep reloading, and the rake will continue.
Obvious rigs would get exploited by the smart players and the general player base would publicly out the network.
What do they have to gain?
If a network wants to be shady, operate out of a tax haven nation and eventually steal all the player's funds.
It's been done often enough, less effort more I'll begotten gains.

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Bovada is also a popular casino and sportsbook, based in Costa Rica.
Bovada has the highest USA poker traffic and fastest payouts.
They also have a real money mobile app.
I've been safe at Bovada Poker for more than a decade and they've earned my highest poker room rating to date.
Well, at least our beautifully dysfunctional offshore USA online poker world that has about as much balance as a Jenga tower set up by a 4-year old.
After a strange year-long absence where Bovada "sold" its online poker operation to I still believe they own both brandsthe OG is relaunching.
Bovada Poker has all the strengths and weaknesses but mostly strengths of the old days.
In short, Bovada Poker is the most "PokerStars-like" of anyone in the US market: tons of games, quick payouts, and a long clean history.
The main difference is Bovada Poker actually has profitable games.
Perhaps best of all, the roots of Bodog, which was one of my first toe dips into the waters of online poker back in the halcyon https://chakefashion.com/blackjack/blackjack-uk-bands.html of 2004, is behind it all.
That matters because they've built an impeccable reputation for excellent payouts and player support, all while successfully still allowing American players.
Bovada Poker returns to a fully-furnished online poker mansion in the virtual ether.
Is Bovada Poker Legit?
To me, Bovada Poker is one of the most legit online poker sites in the world, simply because I've had such a good experience there over so many years.
Also, outpaces player traffic of any other US-friendly poker site by a 2 to 1 margin, regularly landing in the top 5 for the world.
Thanks to their casino-and-sports-tinged flavor, Bovada Poker also attract one of the loosest clientele of gamble-it-up online poker players on the planet.
Bovada Poker is one of only 2 sites to offer real money mobile play.
Bovada also the original trendsetter of.
Other American poker rooms have caught up, but Bovada Poker was legitimately paying out players in days before it was fashionable.
I've been playing at Bovada Poker for more than a decade and trust them more than anyone else left in the USA market.
The US market is littered with some solid poker choices that hot streak blackjack some notable weaknesses.
Bovada Blackjack ranch perkinston ms pretty much transcends that, although I'm not a fan of their no-license status.
Despite that, after more than a decade playing here, I feel they're the best all-around poker site still open to USA players.
Bovada Poker Isn't Perfect Before you get the idea that I think can do no wrong, they can and they do.
There's also reason I've trusted Bovada Poker for so long and played there since 2004.
However, there are a few key issues Bovada Poker should clean up if they want to get over that last hump.
No gaming license It's pretty remarkable how bold Bovada Poker has been about this.
Back in 2016, Bovada against its will from the Kahnawake Gaming Commission.
They still haven't replaced it with a gaming license from another jurisdiction.
Although I understand Bovada's private stance that offshore gaming licenses amount to little more than business licenses and taxes, it just looks bad to not be able to proudly display that license to prospective players.
I still trust Bovada Poker simply because I've played there so long, haven't seen any major scandals there, and have never felt burned by them.
Still, wouldn't you feel that much better if they would work to obtain a new license?
It's important to note that any poker affiliate site still claiming Bovada Poker is licensed by the KGC is either showing they haven't updated their site in years, or are purposely misleading you so you feel better about the poker site.
Software could be improved When the software works, it works well and looks pretty.
However, I still occasionally load the desktop software to an empty lobby, which can only be fixed by relaunching.
Also, why are tournaments still not offered on mobile?
That's link to have a small but consistent effect on your win rate.
How long does it take to get your money from Bovada?
It depends on the withdrawal method you choose.
If you use Bitcoin, Bovada is one of the fastest-paying there is.
You should have your money within 6-12 hours.
If blackjack pokerstars rigged have to request a check, you'll probably be waiting about 10-14 days.
For wire transfers, you should receive it in about a week.
Is it legal to bet on Bovada?
The act of placing a bet itself is rarely restricted by state or federal law, although there are some exceptions.
Laws are mainly focused on the gaming operators themselves.
Bovada is legalized in their home jurisdiction of Costa Rica.
Is Bovada a legit site?
To me, Bovada is one of the most legit poker sites open to US players.
I've trusted them with my business for more than 15 years and they've never had a major controversy.
Most importantly, dependable payouts to players have always seemed like blackjack pokerstars rigged priority.
Is Bovada good for poker?
They have more player traffic than anyone else in the American market, the games are very soft, and their withdrawals are some of the quickest online.
The Bovada bonus is simple to understand and straightforward in its requirements.
Even though you'll see a drop down menu for bonus choices, you'll automatically earn a 100% bonus on Bovada Poker play no matter what you choose.
If you might play at the Bovada casino, choose the casino one.
It's all on top of the poker bonus.
My favorite is: "No bonus, thank you.
How Players Can Cash Out the Bovada Bonus Bovada Poker will give you 30 days to clear as much of the bonus as you can, which is about average, but not as good as some online poker rooms that give 60 or 90 days.
How do you clear the bonus and convert it to real usable cash?
Playing in cash games and tournaments, which will earn you Poker Points.
The weakness or should I say designed shortchanging?
Bovada Poker does have one answer to that, which should guarantee the smallest players at least some bonus.
Your bonus funds are easy to see with this graphic wheel in the Bovada Poker bonus section.
You can actually withdraw everything at any time, but Bovada likes you to think you have to play until you're done with the bonus.
That's the hidden gem no else in the US can offer.
That drops about in half for clearing the upper Bovada Poker bonus tiers, which will be a grind.
The only other real poker-specific promotion bonus my Bovada Poker shows comes from using those Poker Points you earned to clear the bonus on real money tournament tickets.
It takes a lot.
You clear the bonus at a crazy rate with Zone.
This is the absolute key to clearing the bonus at a ridiculous rate: play Zone Poker.
They ended up netting me 15-20 Poker Points per table per hour.
It reminds me on an overpowered weapon in an online FPS.
The biggest visual customization you can make is changing the felt color and background image.
I'm a sucker for anything that stands out.
It absolutely doesn't make an iota of difference to the games, but I really like the new sports-theme tables at Bovada Poker and the ridiculous fire effects when you win with a big hand.
Windows and Mac Downloads For functionality, my Bovada Poker review process shows that the software is very good.
Bovada Poker has supported Macs with their own native download since around 2009 or 2010.
You can play up to 15 tables at once at Bovada Poker, mixing and matching game types.
A sampling of some of the options in the Bovada Poker software.
I especially like the all-in percentages, rabbit card, and showing hand strength.
The sports-themed poker tables look nice and the rabbit-hunting and all-in percentages stand out.
Fix the occasional hang and the desktop software is nearly perfect.
The Bovada Poker Software Standouts In terms reviewing the actual software feature set, I like some of the specialized rare functions.
Rabbit hunting is an option, which is always good for self-mutilation.
Bovada Poker also displays your hand strength in words along with TV-style winning percentages on all-in situations.
You can f old more info show.
There are several different visual themes for the Bovada Poker software client.
click the following article the rabbit card, which would have been a 4 of hearts, in action after I won a pot on the flop.
Bovada Poker Builds in a Full-Fledged Casino One interesting feature in the software is they build a Trojan horse right in: a fully-featured casino.
Kind of reminds me of having to walk past the slots and Blackjack tables on the way to the poker room.
What's kind of cool is you can launch the entire suite of Bovada casino games from the standard poker software window.
Most poker sites that try to tempt poker players with casino games limit it to a gaudy Blackjack graphic.
Right underneath the Bovada Poker game types, you'll see the Casino Games section, which has every game built in.
I'm occasionally partial to Blackjack, which is a couple clicks into Bovada's table games section, so I kept doubling my bets until I came out ahead and could get you a screenshot of it.
Funny story on this: I'm clueless on slots, of which the Bovada Poker software lists a ton in the casino games section, but wanted to get a screenshot of a real spin.
I somehow got 10 free spins and watched the reels spin endlessly.
A Tribute to Bovada Poker Anonymous Tables I'll unabashedly admit it: I love anonymous tables at.
I love how far they go with it and I think it's largely to thank for bringing online poker back from.
Anonymous tables were controversial when Bovada Poker introduced them way back in 2011 and they continue to be for the HUD-dependent and learn more here agenda-havers.
Anonymous tables are a game changer.
Nowhere on Bovada Poker will you ever be able to track who you're playing against.
No one can be tracked, preyed upon, or followed.
Not in cash games, not in tournaments.
HUDs are rendered useless.
This is exactly what you'll see at every Bovada Poker table and tournament: player seat numbers with no identifying screen names.
I Love the Bovada Poker Ban on HUDs How does accomplish complete player privacy?
You'll never see anyone's screen name.
Everyone is seen at the tables as Player 1-9 depending on which seat they're sitting in.
Leave the table and find a new cash game?
Get a new Player number.
Or not if you're in the same position.
Why do I love it?
It protects everyone and levels the playing field.
Recreational players don't have to fear being tracked by regs and grinders at Bovada.
They can't be followed or end up on some public list of easy targets.
Sharks similarly can't be avoided.
You'll never have a HUD unfairly used against you because they only work when they can tie hand histories to a screen name.
No screen names here at Bovada Poker.
It isn't just limited to Bovada Poker cash games, either.
Tournament players all get the same "Player" moniker.
Your results can't be reviewed, tracked, and used against you using popular HUDs like Hold'em Manager or Poker Tracker, even after a tournament is completed Bovada Poker led the charge against HUDs with anonymous tables, which render them useless.
It's a big reason why Bovada Poker continues to attract recreational and losing players.
I'm a big advocate of destroying HUDs and protecting recreational players.
No one takes that further than Bovada Poker.
Aside from regulated USA states such as Washington, Nevada, Delaware, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania, Bovada Poker does accept all American players.
Ever since corrupt politicians and special interests in America forever blackjack pokerstars rigged back in 2006, prospective USA players have wondered the same thing: "Is Bovada Poker legal for me?
In fact, it's a huge misconception that any laws strategy 17 basic blackjack stand on online poker or any other were even changed in with the UIGEA back in 2006.
The Bovada Poker mobile offering was the first to do it for real money in the US, and it's still excellent for Zone Poker and straight cash games.
I love how lightweight it is for both iOS and Android.
Part of it is out of necessity.
No is going to get approved or reviewed for the App Store or Google Play.
Bovada Poker treats apps like a relic of the past.
All you have to do is from your phone or tablet.
Sign in to blackjack pokerstars rigged account and click poker.
There's nothing to download or overload our app-averse brains.
You'll see 2 options: Zone Poker and Cash Games.
Pick your stakes, turn your device blackjack pokerstars rigged, and off you go.
Here's the lobby display for Bovada Poker mobile.
It's very sharp aside from the lack of tournaments and multiple tables.
Bovada Poker is one of the only US poker rooms to offer mobile.
Zone Poker should come with a Surgeon General's warning for addictiveness.
Tournaments and multi-tabling are all that's missing.
The Two Drawbacks to the Bovada Poker App had a years-long head start on the clueless US competition for mobile, with only BetOnline recently trying to make a blackjack dealer value of it.
We use them for everything, ergonomics be damned.
The fact is that other poker sites have solved this and Bovada Poker should add in support for both, pronto.
Give players the option.
For now, the absolute best use for the Bovada Poker app is Zone Poker.
Bovada Poker doesn't advertise it anywhere, but you can absolutely play it on any browser without downloading anything.
Bovada Poker instant play is going to look a little wonky because they expect you to be on mobile.
It still works perfectly well if you're fine with a single cash or Zone Poker table.
Whee, and off you go.
Real money games in your browser with no download required.
At least instant play is possible at all.
With Bovada's Zone Poker, as soon as you click that "Fold Now" button you'll see a new table form and be dealt a new hand.
How Does Bovada's Zone Poker Work?
Blinds are determined by who has gone the longest without paying them.
I think Zone Poker and its ilk are the best evolution that computers have enabled for poker.
That equates to 4-5 standard cash games, meaning you can see more hands in less time at a single table and increase your win ceiling similarly.
You're always doing something and can play the equivalent of 4-5 cash tables in 1.
Want to try the closest thing to mixing chocolate and peanut butter in online poker?
Mix Zone Poker with mobile, which was smart enough to do.
Got 10 minutes sitting by the pool, waiting for commercials, or a 4-hour baseball game that would put mere mortals to sleep?
Grab your phone, load www.
No waiting, easy in and out, and something that will actually entertain you in short bursts.
Bovada Poker Fish Rating Hint: It's Fishy When you first arrive, you'll have no indication that Bovada Poker is one of if not online.
It far beats out other loose USA sites.
There are literally no table stats with the exception of average pots for Zone Poker, and the experience seems just https://chakefashion.com/blackjack/blackjack-hands-order.html every other online poker room of the past 15 years.
Once you start to play at Bovada for awhile, though, you'll understand my Fish Rating.
I know because I've played at Bovada Poker since 2004.
They were notably loose back then and that's saying something for those insane days.
I also took records for my old review before switched over to Quick Seat to back it up.
Measuring Bovada Poker's Fish Metrics When Bovada Poker still displayed it, the flop and average pot numbers for cash games were insane.
In an era where 20% seeing the flop is decent and bore-fests like PokerStars go down to the so for digits, Bovada Poker was hitting 30-40% for 9-seat tables.
That would sometimes climb to 50% for the 6-seat tables that dominate the lobbies these days.
Average pots were between 30-40x the big blind.
More players seeing the flop at Bovada Poker than they should for more money than they should.
That combination equals greater variance and greater, easier profit.
That's a tradeoff you should make every time.
Take the typical Bovada clientele, throw in things like anonymous tables, Zone Poker, and Quick Seat, all of which appeal to recreational players, and it's like adding WD-40 to the hinges.
Interestingly, Zone Poker is the only game type at Bovada that shows game metrics.
It still sports nice loose numbers, but it will always be a bit lower than traditional cash games.
Why are the players at so loose?
Probably for the same reason every crossover poker, casino, and sportsbook outfit features worse players than a poker-focused poker site: Bovada appeals to players who are there to be aggressive and gamble.
It's also so easy for sports and casino players who don't know a whole lot about poker just jump in and try to emulate the thrills they see on things like TV poker.
There's a reason why Bovada Poker so well at poker forums like 2+2 and Reddit: the games are simply easier, wilder, looser, and any other synonym your thesaurus spits out.
With Bovada Poker Zone players able to fold and see a new hand within a second or two, it eliminates the boredom and lack of engagement that leads to playing too many hands at classic cash games.
Expect a 10-15% drop in flop percentage for Zone Poker.
Bovada Poker Game Type Minimum Stakes Maximum Stakes Zone Poker Fast-Fold.
Experienced players also knew to jump on the looser tables with higher stats like moths to a volcano.
This is the only screen you'll see now when choosing a Bovada Poker straight cash game.
No more lobbies with table lists.
Why Bovada Added Quick Seat The problem, however, just click for source that the weak loose players that are the lifeblood of online poker still get preyed on indirectly.
You also get imbalanced tables with 20 players on a waiting list while the rest languish.
With Quick Seat, Read article Poker has totally done away with the lobby system altogether.
For Bovada cash games, you can only choose the limit, the table size, and your buy-in.
The Bovada Poker does the rest, automatically seating you at a random table that meets your specs.
It seems like a worthy tradeoff, but players who like less popular formats like heads-up, high stakes, or have no idea if a table is even going at that limit.
You can find yourself matched up to an empty table.
With Bovada Poker's quick seat, you choose your game, limit, buy-in, and table size, but the software picks the table for you.
Bovada Poker Deposits Bovada Poker has always excelled at banking, the benefit of a positively ancient history in the online gambling space.
These days, it's streamlined more than anyone else.
Bovada Poker are literally limited to 2 options for US players publicly: Bitcoin and credit cards.
If you have any questions about the former, I just finished a huge tutorial on everything to do with.
I'm a Bitcoin zealot, firmly believing knowing that every US online poker deposit issue would be solved if every player took the 12 minutes to continue reading it.
Already use the best banking method and online poker has ever known?
Bovada Poker will generate Bitcoin QR codes on-demand.
Get your real money credited to your account.
Online poker players need to adapt to Bitcoin.
They accept credit cards at a very good rate, but I wouldn't mind if Bovada Poker ever moved to Bitcoin-only.
On Credit Card Deposits for the Cryptocurrency-averse Still partying like it's 1999 and need to use a credit card?
Bovada Poker uses some clever processors that result in fewer declines.
On review, I would estimate that probably 70-80% of USA-based credit cards are going to work, which is at the upper echelon.
Besides being better in every way, if you want to get the lowest minimum deposits and never have any fees for a Bovada Poker deposit, just use Bitcoin.
There's some controversy on credit card deposit fees.
For years, they've had a line for a 5.
For years, it's always been crossed out for me.
Granted, unless it's a test, I'm not going to be depositing via credit card.
My snarky conclusion: Bother to learn Bitcoin and you never have to deal with credit card nonsense or banks again.
My sensible answer: 5.
Granted I haven't done many any?
It probably will be for you, too.
I'm no stranger to Bitcoin poker deposits by now.
However, I had to make a Bitcoin deposit with after they reopened.
I thought I was used to the drill.
Set up your deposit in the cashier, send it from your wallet, and wait for it to confirm on the blockchain before your funds get credited.
I've made lots of poker and blackjack pokerstars rigged Bitcoin purchases and that's just the way it goes.
The wait time is usually about 15-45 minutes thanks to the beautiful success of Bitcoin these days.
Bovada Poker shocked me wh en they credited by Bitcoin deposit instantly.
I sat down at a table and, sure enough, it was available to use.
That's a risk taken by Bovada Poker to make deposits run smoothly and keep us impatient players humming.
That moved Bovada Poker up a notch in my book.
Bovada Poker Deposit Method Minimum deposit Maximum deposit Fees Approx.
The 3 methods you can use for Bovada Poker payouts.
Even though you should be using Bitcoin, the blackjack pokerstars rigged 2 are still nice to have.
Wires are especially rare.
Is Bovada Safe for Payouts in Bitcoin?
What does that mean in real terms?
I was waiting up to 2-3 days first world problem, I knowwhich was among the slowest for my trusted US poker sites and simply not very Bovada-like.
Now that the real king is back on his throne?
Be alert that Bovada Poker will probably tie up funds that were given a bonus on if you haven't completed it yet.
Just forfeit the rest of it if you want to get a payout immediately.
Bovada Poker lets you keep what you've already cleared.
Also, check out that Bitcoin processing time!
For all the howling about withdrawal fees at Bovada Poker, you get a free one using any method once a blackjack pokerstars rigged />Much better, use Bitcoin and you can get a free one every 5 days if you want.
Paper Checks via Courier at bovada.
You get to experience the thrill of seeing the Fedex driver walk up to your door with an envelope.
Wire Transfer is rare and appreciated What I think is a lot cooler, however, is the wire transfer option Bovada Poker has for high-stakes players.
Each one seems to favor a different style, which allows players to be selective.
That also makes rating the tournament schedule very subjective.
Interestingly, Bovada Poker carries anonymous tables all the way through to every tournament, guaranteeing you won't be spied on by HUDs.
It just so has go here that Bovada Poker online website stuck with that recipe over the years, which is like comfort food to my grizzled online poker soul.
About 90% of Bovada Poker tournaments are either guarantees or satellites to other guarantees.
I do also have a bit of a sweet tooth for Bounty tournaments as well, which calls Knockout.
Bovada Poker's tournament schedule won't turn many heads, but they turn mine because they're running 90% guarantees without rebuy gimmicks or lottery-style nonsense.
The More info Up Sit and Go format is popular at Bovada Poker.
The top 3 finishers all get equal advantage player of triple the buy-in.
Here you can see how quickly most Sit and Go's will start at Bovada Poker and which formats are most popular.
As has become standard in the online poker world, Bovada Poker also saves their biggest tournaments for Sundays.
You know how does it?
Unlimited re-buys, late registration until the cows go home, and check this out things like lottery spins to reverse your bust-out.
The winner drags the whole prize pool.
The kicker is that the prize pool is determined at random.
There is also a very small chance that the prize pool could be 120, 240, or even 1,200 times the buy-in.
The chance of drawing the largest Jackpot is 1 in 10,000.
Bovada Poker likes to post when this happens and, so far, that's been about 2 or 3 times a month.
However, experienced players will likely grow tired of the shove-or-fold tendency of Jackpots.
Perhaps it actually did Bovada Poker a favor, knocking out the competition for them.
Bovada Poker has grown in player traffic several fold over the past several years, aided by one of the only squeaky clean reps in US-friendly poker and smart moves like anonymous tables.
Bovada posts no total player count anywhere.
This is an old screenshot from when Bovada Poker still showed cash game numbers.
Bovada wouldn't display full tables, but you can see some high-stakes games going and very liberal flop percentages.
Bovada Poker has had at least double the traffic of any other USA competition for several years now.
The raw numbers on Bovada Poker players Concrete numbers we have to go on are by tournaments, which do show the number of players that compete in each event.
Player please click for source at Bovada Poker tournaments is excellent, with the less popular events bringing no less than 200 players and the bigger guarantees 800-1,000.
The only concrete Bovada Poker traffic numbers you can get anymore are from tournament entries, which are very high.
You can see examples of some of the high-traffic tournaments here.
Bovada Poker Player Support A memory that sticks out to me about my Bovada Poker review from the old days is they were one of the first to offer telephone player support.
They're still doing it 24 hours a day.
I've also always gotten the impression that the reps were actually based out of Bovada rather than outsourced to your favorite third-world call center.
My favorite antisocial internet advent - live chat - is available from any browser window.
Email - which seems like the modern equivalent of "snail mail" - should get you a response within a few hours.
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